Mixed Races

[S'kvari]

We all know that Bretons are Man/Elf mixes. But what about a Nord/Imperial? Or Bosmer/Altmer? I haven't allowed this before now, but I want to see what ya'll think. There would be a few rules with it that would be added to the character rules. They are:

1. Any Man/Mer cross is still a Breton.
2. Man nor Mer can breed with Beastfolk
3. Beastfolk cannot interbreed.

Be sure to comment with why you chose your answer and suggest additions to/argue the three rules above.


*NOTE: When I think of Bretons, I think they would have the widest looks spectrum, despite the all looking the same in the game. I think you could have a more elfish looking Breton, or a more human looking one. (Thanks for reminding me to say that Twinch)

Also, there has been some confusion about the poll. This is a better explanation.
Originally, I didn't allow mixed races (save for Bretons) unless it was a child of two on-site characters. even them, that child would not be playable. However, if yes wins on this poll, I'll allow people to create mixed races characters and the mixed race children would also become playable.

I chose yes, because I think that opens up a lot more creativity.

[Wilhelm Bear-Heart]

I voted yes as per S'kvari's reason.

[raziah]

No, for the below reasons.

1) Four words: "A Wizard Did It," but there better be a reason for it. (Hello, old Kajigonian talk. XD)

2) The "race" thing in Skyrim always seemed more of a cultural thing than an actual "race" thing. At least, for most of the humans. There isn't really much difference between a Nord and an Imperial save for where they're born. For Bretons, obviously are of mixed Men/Mer ancestry thus they are a separate "race." And Redguards are a no-brainer. XD

[Ande]

Yes!

More options = yay.

BUT!!! And this is a huge butt.
We can't let this get out of hand crazily. Otherwise we'll have someone running around looking like an elf-man-lizard-cat with a crazy mathmatical equation stating how closely they are related to everything. Plus most people in Skyrim tend to be biased everything Not-Nord, so having some cross-bred thing/person running around would probably get a lot of bias and hate.

EDIT: I'm going to agree with almost everything Twinch just posted. The only problem is how do we account for the percentages? And can't we just have a mix-breed just walking around in full adult form instead of only allowing children between two characters?

[Twinch]

I dunno. I voted yes, but honestly I'm not all too sure what I voted for.

Lemme state my thoughts. I think that interbreeding should be allowed in any case, because in Elder Scrolls lore there are tons of stories of interbreeding. HOWEVER.

I think that ONE- you should only be able to create an unusually combined character as the child of a current character,

and TWO- the percentage of a pregnancy is determined by the mix of races.

So say a Nord and Nord breed (I'm talking about this like dogs, LOL). The probability of a viable pregnancy, outside of normal complications, is 100%. Then we say an Khajiit and an Imperial try to breed. Since the races are so vastly different, the chances of a pregnancy would be more around 5%. AKA, highly unlikely.

We can assume that all Mer can reproduce without problems, and that all Humans can reproduce without problems, and that Mer and Humans can reproduce fairly easily. We don't know much about the beast races, but we can assume it's far more possible to interbreed with a Khajiit, being a mammal, than it would be with an Argonian, being a reptile.

In short, it wold factor out something like this.

Outside of normal complications such as miscarriage and certain diseases,
Any HumanXHuman cross is 100% likely, and will produce fertile offspring.
Any MerXMer cross is 100% likely, and will produce fertile offspring.
Any MerXHuman cross is 80% likely, and will produce fertile offspring.
Any KhajiitXMer cross is 10% likely, and will NOT produce fertile offspring.
Any KhajiitXHuman cross is 10% likely, and will NOT produce fertile offspring.

Any ArgonianXANY cross is 4% likely, will NOT produce fertile offspring, and will only work if the FEMALE partner is Argonian.


If you think this is stupid go ahead and ignore me XD I have a bad habit of over thinking genetic and biological problems. Besides, it'd all be up to the mods in the end anyway.

Also, and this is a side note, I think it's not true that Bretons are a cross between man and Mer. I think they are Humans with Mer blood in their past. If they were a direct cross, they'd bear more resemblance to their direct Mer parent.

[Drooga]

I voted yes although with one precaution.
I can imagine every race getting along except Argonians. I mean, they have scales, not skin and are born from eggs... I just couldn't see it happening.

[Risrryn]

(delayed input)

I voted no - not because I am against it, but because there are alot of people voting 'yes, but with this reason' and I think those reasons need to be looked at and written in before its put into play.

[Ivirya Redoran (CB)]

what S'kvari said